President Trump calls Pastor John MacArthur to thank him "for taking a stand"

by Bryan Brammer · Aug 24th, 2020 4:07 pm

Last Updated Aug 25th, 2020 at 1:11 pm

President Trump two weeks ago called Pastor John MacArthur of Grace Community Church to thank him for remaining open for in-person services despite the state's coronavirus lockdown orders.

During an interview with Ryan Helfenbein of Liberty University's The Falkirk Podcast, MacArthur detailed his phone conversation with the country's leader.

"Not last Sunday but the Sunday before, [President Trump] called me after the Sunday morning service, and he was very gracious, and said 'I just want to thank you for taking a stand. Church is essential, and I'm glad you're doing what you're doing,'" MacArthur said.

The conversation shifted from Trump admonishing the church's stance on religious freedom to the issues of the evangelical vote this November.

"And then we talked a little bit about why, from certainly a biblical standpoint, Christians could not vote Democrat," MacArthur told Helfenbein. "Because there's no way a Christian can affirm the slaughter of babies, homosexual activity, homosexual marriage, or any kind of gross immorality – no way we could, you know, stand behind a candidate who was affirming transgender behavior, which of course is really the reprobate mind of Romans 1."

MacArthur also mentioned that he told the president that the controversial topics that make it very difficult for a Christian to vote for a Democrat "aren't even political for us," but are rather "laid down by the word of God."


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